Regarding "Depp as Riddler, Hoffman as Penguin" rumors

Let’s all just sit down and take a deep breath.

You, too, Philip Seymour Hoffman.

Then we’ll head over to El Nopal for a couple of burritos and a Mountain Dew or two.

And then back across the street for a vanilla malt at Zesto’s and maybe a pork BBQ sandwich.



MTV says this:

Michael Caine Says Johnny Depp Is The Riddler, Philip Seymour Hoffman Is The Penguin

I’ll wait here while you read it.




This obviously sounds like the scoop of all scoops, but it’s also nothing more than speculation from all parties involved.

It’s just way too early to be talking about which new characters might be in the next Batman movie, much less who might be playing them, given that writer/director Christopher Nolan is still quite deservedly off the grid.

Furthermore, the hardest working Batman fan on the planet, Bill “Jett” Ramey, put a link on his Batman on Film site to this blurb from the Toronto Film Festival, where Jay Stone posed the question to Philip Seymour Awesome himself and got this response:

Hoffman says no one has ever called him, but it’s possible that someone wants him to play the part and the rumour is being floated to capture his interest. If so, he isn’t saying yes. But he isn’t saying no either.
“I don’t think so,” he says, before he softened the stand a bit.
“I grew up a comic book fan, so I love that stuff. I love going to that stuff. I think what they’re doing with that whole Batman story is really true to what that whole Batman thing has always been. It’s one of the darkest origins of a superhero, to get all nerdy and geeky on you. That character sees his parents gunned down as a young child: I remember when I was a kid reading that story, so seeing it now come to life as the dark tale that it really is as an intense, really dark, very visceral, adult tale that they’re doing now, all the great work people are doing on it, of course I wouldn’t say, ‘Well, no, no no.’
“But I don’t know the reality of it, so I wouldn’t say ‘yes’ to you.”

That’s actually an interesting answer.

But, as Bill points out, the Hoffman rumors have been around for a long, long time, so take that as you will, too.


My vote for The Riddler is still Casey Affleck, based on the bad-ass back-to-back work he did in Gone Baby Gone and The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. Take the confidence from the former and the creepiness (which built into confidence) from the latter and you’ve got one scary customer who could put Batman through some truly twisted mind games.

But I’d certainly welcome Johnny Depp in anything.

And Philip Seymour Awesome can also play The Penguin any time he likes.

They’d just need to make the character more realistic, like they did (to magnificent effect) with The Joker in The Dark Knight.

To my knowledge, Warner Bros. hasn’t released a denial of any of this.

And we do know that Johnny Depp thinks it would be “a fun gig.”


As always, let’s consider everything rumor until a Warner Bros. press release says it’s fact.

And it’s going to be a long, long time before anything like that happens.

And now I want to go see The Dark Knight again.

Who’s with me?


  1. WITA says:

    Brilliantly put, as always.

    And I’d rather see Affleck than Depp, personally. I love Depp, but I want a fresh face. That is, if they even chose the Riddler. Because I’m hoping they’ll go with a fresh villain, too.

    And HOLY CRAP awesome banner! KEEP that one on, I love it! :D

  2. Bree says:

    Considering Ledger and Eckert were the only two actors I’ve liked in this franchise so far and now one is actually dead and the other is movie-dead… I need more lesser-big-names, more “WTF”-type castings to keep me even remotely interested in the third flick.

    And I also think that they need to kill off the Joker right at the beginning in some freak accident, so that the legend of Ledger may live on.

  3. LikaLaruku says:

    People are spreading all kinds of stupid rumors at Yahoo Answers; Eddie Murphey as Riddler? Seriously? Heard a few clammoring for Johnny Depp or Jim Carey to be the Joker. Depp would only work is he did RIP Joker, since he’s all Sweeney-Todd now & gave Harley the Mrs. Lovett treatment. Carey? Maybe 10 or 20 years ago. He sure can’t pull off non-comedy very well.

    I just hope Nolan does like the Wikipidea says & steps down & lets someone else do a more accurate, less fanfictiony movie. If the movie has to be as noncanon as Elseworlds, then I’d like to see a Batman horror flick with Killer Crock & Scarecrow directed by Wes Craven or George Romero.

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